Thursday, February 12, 2009


Atheists Do Believe, Just, (Obviously,) Not What “Believers” Believe.
by An American Atheist Because The Ideology Of The Believers Is Destroying My Nation.

Being an atheist does not mean one does not believe in anything, nor does it mean that one is above, and/or better than, and/or that there isn’t the possibility of a higher intelligence within, or without, the universe.  It simply means one does not believe in a “God” or “Gods” as defined by almost all human religious “faiths.”

Atheists do believe in good and evil, particularly concerning human endeavors and intent.  But most definitely not in a good or evil directed by an outside entity or entities with seemingly mysterious magical powers that respond to “prayers,” intra-personal thoughts, etc.

Even though it is possible that life on earth may have been created, started, or initiated by a being, maybe or maybe not, more advanced than ourselves, not unlike humans going to another planet and terraforming it for our future use, (pretty much a given in our future,) or to stimulate the growth/creation of “intelligence” as displayed in Arthur C. Clarke’s “2001 A Space Odyssey” series of stories concerning aliens that did just that.  Atheists do not “believe” any such entity, if one did start our evolution, is invisibly hanging around and magically responding to billions of “prayers” from earth’s multitudes, much less directing any cause and effect situations whatsoever here on the planet, much less doing so for the entire incomprehensible universe, or even much less that an entity created the universe.

Atheists do believe in the reality of reality, i.e. most all atheists are realists, more to the point, that to believe something true without any known possible reason for believing such to be true, or “faith” which is defined as; belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence, is simply a form of insanity, particularly in regards to religious faith.

The big problem with human religious faith is that if reality conflicts with faith belief, then reality is rejected.  Rejected even to the point of allowing that murder of those not rejecting the reality, in “God’s” name, as demanded by most religious faith. And if one believes in the same “God,” but in an even slightly different way, as most of the monotheistic beliefs do today, (i.e. Islam, Christianity, Judaism to name the big three, ) then the “faithful” are assured that they should die, and that it’s okay with their “God.”

The “certainty” of unrealistic religious faith belief, and its justifications for destroying any who disagree, is certainly destroying us. But as history has proven, (many times over,) it can not be suppressed without almost just as disastrous results.

I take it on “faith” that until this dilemma is solved, civilization will never be able to become civilized.  The only real answer is education.  Because nothing else will ever work as a solution.  Until all don’t, or do, believe the same way, (which will never happen,) there will continue to be those that kill and destroy, in the name of unrealistic faith in unprovable ideology, and “Gods.”

The founders of this nation understood this well, having come from state religion controlled societies.  It is why they created the demand for Separation of Church and State within the Construction - That law does not suppress religion, but it did create a wall of protection from this nation becoming a theocracy, controlled by one religion, that would not be able to stop itself from eventually becoming more fundamentalistic, and eventually attempting to suppress all other religions, and finally to the point that murder of non-believers, or believers in the same God, but just not in the same proscribed way... will be justified.

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I just had to get it off my chest.  I know it has been said many times, and in many different ways, but it makes my feel better to simply express my frustration with the insanity of human religious faith belief.

One must keep in mind that well over half of this planet’s population, (approximately 6.7 billion and counting,) have “below average” IQs.  That is a mathematical fact, and it will never change, even with optimal education planetwide.  It is that fact, along with the fact that “evil” people will always take advantage of that fact for sociopathic personal profit, whether that profit be money, power, fame, or a combination of all the possibilities of “profit.”

Sorry for the downer posting - But I just felt a need to spew it out.


At 2/14/2009 5:23 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Excellent post. One of my favorite Christian "believer" thinkers is former Bishop now journalist John Shelby Spong. You'd probably enjoy this article-

At 2/14/2009 6:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Excellent! Keep them coming.


At 2/14/2009 7:07 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

How can you be so blind? Can't you see God answering the prayers of at least HALF of every football team and basketball team at the end of the game?

When He's not guiding sports teams, He's busy deciding who gets Oscars and Grammys, too.

O, ye of little faith. "Nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile."

BTW I blogrolled you at Freedom Rants.

At 9/26/2009 3:49 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi there old hippy.
Just today I've decided to do some research so that I can give a talk on spirituality in the sixties and its connection with our present time. Then I stumbled across your blog.
I really chuckled while reading your blog. I'm sure I had some of those similar feelings before I stumbled across Raja yoga meditation 7 years ago. I remember feeling that I had no idea whatsoever if God was real or not, and I had no experiences to prove that God was real. I remember telling someone that when I thought of God it was just a big black hole in my mind. Nothing there. And prayer, I thought, was really stupid because what if two people were praying for the opposite thing. It just seemed stupid and didn't make any sense and sometimes it made me mad that people were so stupid. my travels and adventures on this journey of life one day without really looking all that hard for it, I stumbled across something which made total sense, but is perfectly designed for only a small number of people worldwide to understand. First it requires being open to it, then learning, then meditating and asking yourself some very deep questions and then putting it into practice and experiencing it. It is empowering, mind blowing and revolutionary. It turns your whole concept of reality upside down. And it is related to the sixties, as well as to the world today and where we are as a society. So now I want to figure out how I can explain it so that other people can understand it.

Take care and keep your mind very very open,
Love and peace,


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